Thursday, April 26, 2012

Who is Gog and Magog?


Years ago there was very interesting collection of information proving that President George Bush was Gog and the United States was Magog.  Since Obama became president and the code of OBAMA was found with a 7 letter skip in Ezekiel 38 where it talks about Gog and Magog, everyone became convinced that the new president was Gog.

Let us revisit the proof of Gog Bush and see if the factors pointing to his being Gog have changed.  Also, let me introduce other information that has been ignored.  I wasn’t able to find the article that made such a stir but I believe I remember most of the facts in order to recreate it here. 

First we have the pronunciation of Gog.  That in itself is very interesting since a Sephardic Jew would pronounce it more like Joj.  There is no J sound in Hebrew and the pronunciation by a Sephardic Jew doesn’t have letters in English to do it justice; however, it sounds almost like someone is mispronouncing Jeoje.  The Jews of Yemen would add an extra R sound making closer to Jeorje.  Either way it puts an interesting connotation on why the Bible calls him Gog.

Then there is Magog.  The Hebrew letter mem (with the M sound) when used as a prefix in a word means “from.”  Now we are hinting to a George from George.  What a coincidence that his father is George senior.  But, since we are trying to determine a place, it is suggested that the father of our country Gog Washington might hint to the place.  Gog Bush is “from” Washington named after another Gog.

I remember reading that the Bush family has roots in England and that they came from a town that was located at the foot of the hills of Gog and Magog.  I wasn’t able to verify that fact but did find the Gog Magog Downs (also known as the Gog Magog Hills) are a range of low hills, extending for several miles to the southeast of Cambridge in England.  I do believe the Bush family came from Yorkshire which is a distance from Cambridge.

More dramatic a fact is that the Bushes were members of the Yale Secret Society of  Skull and Bones.   The nickname used by George H. W. Bush in this satanic society was Magog.  The nickname of George W. Bush is currently unknown outside of the group but I heard years ago that it was a name that included Gog (sorry I don’t have more info on that).  The Bushes continued there evil worship as members of the Illuminati, an organization that holds annual dark side worship practices at a place called the Bohemian Grove outside of San Francisco.  Their satanic doctrine teaches that, ultimately, the New World Order can be established in society only after a time of planned, great world turbulence and chaotic disorder.  It is this very concept- “order out of chaos”- which is at the foundation of all Masonic doctrine.  Gog Senior’s famous speech, when he was president, that they were instituting a New World Order is well known.  What is sad is how he was convincing the world that is was a good thing.  The evil plan which is being perpetuated to this day comes from another organization called the Bilderberg Group within which the Bushes are very active.  This group of 120 to 140 of the richest, most influential people in the world meets once a year to forward their agenda of a New World Order.  Their goal is to continue much of the chaos going on in the world which they orchestrated, to cause World War 3, a nuclear holocaust and to kill off about 90% of the world population.  Do I really believe that?  Absolutely, since there is so much evidence to prove their agenda.  They will then institute a one world government with a single monetary currency that they will control.  The government will be of a Communistic nature since this greedy group of megalomaniacs wants to literally own the world and all that is in it.   A much smaller world population is desirably for control.  Nobody in the world will actual own anything but will be subservient to the leaders of the one world government (a slave mentality).  The most important thing to take from all this is that the Bush family is far from retired and is still looking to carry out the Gog and Magog scenario but more covertly.  Gog senior wanted to do this in the 1990’s but had a major setback when he did not pick up another four years as President.  Gog junior thought he would continue as president since he and Dick Chaney, his vice (and I do mean vice) gave speeches in August of 2008 that WW3 would start in September.  The attempted attack on Israel, that Hashem curtailed, was the action that would have started the war they were counting on.  It is interesting to note that the third battle of Gog and Magog was to be 7 years according to scriptures.  That means that from 9/11/2001 to 9/2008 when the war would have happened was the 7 years.  I have mentioned that any negative prophecy, such as a huge nuclear world war, does not have to happen.  This obviously with Hashem’s mercy was prevented.

Here is an article about Bush senior’s father, Prescott.
Both Gog junior and senior continue the Nazi Zaidy legacy--Here's PROOF:


This is the proof that Prescott Bush's bank financed Hitler and his Nazi machine -- with the complicit approval of the US government.  It’s high time the Jews and true allies of Israel know the truth of Bush and his family legacy.  Holocaust survivors should sue the Bush heirs in the US courts to lay all the horrific and grisly details bare. You will find IBM, the Ford Foundation and the Rockefellers as co-conspirators in the annihilation that was the Jewish Holocaust -- with every desire to see it happen again in Israel.

Israel, know who your true enemies are and why your governments are so easily blackmailed into the assistance of the next Jewish Holocaust.

Let's all pray that the G-d of Israel saves the Jews now -- from themselves and their "best friends!"

There are three battles to occur in Gog and Magog.  The famous Rabbi Yisrael Meir Kagan, known popularly as The Chofetz Chaim, said (I believe in 1929), after the Great War that was renamed World War 1, that this war was the first battle of Gog and Magog.  He then predicted that in 10 years the second battle would pursue.  He passed away in 1933 but his prediction of another big war in 1939 was totally accurate.  The Chofetz Chaim also said that the third battle would take place in the end of days but would be a spiritual war.  It seems that he was accurate on that one also since the 7 year spiritual war mentioned above (2001 to 2008) satisfied that prophecy.

But who was Gog during the three wars.  WW1 was King George the 5th ,  WW2 was King George the 6th and WW3 is King George the Bush.  By the way, the word in Hebrew for shame or embarrassment is Busha.  What a coincidence? 

Next clue to Gog’s identity:


Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible's satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
Honest.  This isn't a joke.  The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from G-d.


Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. . . . The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. . . . This confrontation is willed by G-d, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."


This bizarre -- seemingly deranged -- episode happened while the White House was assembling its "coalition of the willing" to unleash the Iraq invasion.  Chirac says he was boggled by Bush's call, and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs."


So where is Magog?  Ezekiel 38:15 tells us that Gog will come from the North.  Many have speculated that Russia or Iran is Magog just because of threats that have come from these countries in modern times.  But, a closer look at the wording says from the “uttermost parts of the north,” or another translation “the far north.”  What could that be referring to?  If one would look at a globe and go directly north from Jerusalem, over the pole (that’s far north) one would come to a place called the United States of America.  What a coincidence?

I saved the best for last:

Yes, we find Obama in Ezekiel with a skip rate of 7.  But, let us look at a more pertinent verse, 38:3, which reads: 
Thus said Hashem:  Behold, I am against you, Gog, the prince, leader of Meshech and Tuval.  Verse 4 I will lead you astray…
In Hebrew:
...הנני אליר גוג נשיא משר ותבל: ושובבתיך

The Hebrew word for prince is nausi which happens to be the word used in modern Hebrew for President.  But the best part is in the name of the place Meshech and Tuval in Hebrew we find with skip rate of two (every other letter) BUSH.  It even goes from left to right just like English.

משך ותבל
In the next word, we just happen to find BUSH again this time no letter skip and also left to right.
ושובבתיך

What a coincidence and far more impressive than the Obama code.

Obviously, Hashem is giving us very definite clues as to whom Gog is.  The scarier part is how much the Bushes still are involved in world politics and what they are planning.  Obama is very involved in what is transpiring but is really a puppet to the agenda of the Illuminati and the Bilderberg Group.  I have never seen the United States as a friend of Israel.  I could right a very long blog post on all the negative actions that the US has perpetuated on Israel.  The information is extensive.  I will just give some examples and leave it at that.  On my post entitled "Who Owns this Land?” of 29 March, I stated “It was well known that the United States State Department advised the then President Harry Truman to sign in favor of the Jewish state but only because the US was convinced that 5 mighty Arab armies would obliterate this new nation.  The many agreements orchestrated by the US that have caused havoc in Israel and also, are responsible for thousands of deaths.  Thanks to the US, Israel gave up its buffer zone in the Sinai that has resulted in terrorist groups and much armament being setup in Gaza and the agreement never resulted in peace with Egypt.  Then there is the giving back of the buffer zone in southern Lebanon that permitted terrorists to kidnap and kill Israeli soldiers and allowed the staging of 10’s of thousands of missiles on Israel’s northern border.  This caused the 2006 war with Israel.  Then there are the accords like Oslo and others requiring Israel to give up land that belongs to Israel and receive terror in return.  Good deal, huh?

An interesting website (long read) that gives more proof of George bush being Gog:


Once again, I am not worried.  Hashem is the Guardian of Israel, the Jewish people and the righteous gentiles.  It all has a happy ending. 

49 comments:

  1. Where do you get the seven years from?

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    1. Ezekiel 39:9 alludes to the time of the final battle since it says that the House of Israel will fuel fires with the enemy's weapons for seven years. The verse is interpreted in commentary as the length of time for the final battle.

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  2. The Illuminati notion of creating order in their image after formenting world chaos and devestation sounds remarkably similar to 12er Shia doctrine that it makes me wonder if there is a connection between the two, something along the lines of the Illuminati and other groups being a westernized / xianized form of 12er shiaism (either that or they are merely two sides of the same coin).

    http://shiratdevorah.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/iran-preparing-for-last-six-months.html

    Even though it is an old link, the following proposes that the land of Magog is actually located from the Balochistan region where Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan meet up to the Kerman and Hormozgan provinces where the Strait of Hormuz is.

    It is worth noting that Kerman used to be known as Kermania, Germania or Zermanya since they are believed to be one of the original names for the location of Magog, I also seem to recall reading that apparently there is a Edomite "Germania" and an Ishmaelite "Germania".

    http://hashem1.net/?p=361

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    1. Fascinating information which touches upon the connection of the evil of Germany with the evil of Iran. Both nations are decedent from the tribes of Amalek, our arch-enemy. In other words, the evil of WW2 and what is happening today are tied together by ancestry. I am not familiar with Shia doctrine which dates back to the 7th century, but I would imagine that the Illuminati, which was formed in Bavaria Germany (of all places), in 1776 (of all years) has very similar and evil doctrine. There is no coincidence.

      There has been much speculation to the whereabouts of Magog; but, I have always been curious about the statement of "the far north" which seems to eliminate areas not far from and not north of Israel.

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    2. Apparently Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok of KosherTorah is of the opinion that WWII never end but was merely prosponed, a view which I myself am leaning towards since the Arabs were friendly with the Nazis (while the Nazis themselves admired islam as well as expressing regret that the Germans never became muslims) along with the fact that Israel is prevented by foreign powers from decisively winning against its partly Nazi-inspired enemies.

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  3. The missing piece to understanding how the Bush family became inextricably linked to Magog was the action of Prescott Bush when he was training in Oklahoma for WW1. He wanted to pledge the Skull and Bones Society, but he was just a boy in the college band at Yale. So he and two buddies unearthed the Skull of the Apache medicine man and warrior Geronimo who had passed away in the previous 10 years and was buried in Fort Sill in Oklahoma. Geronimo as the head of he Apache nation represented the nation more than any other Apache, and performing occultic practices on the skull would make him ruler over the spirit of that nation. So this is where it gets wild. There were 3 waves of American Indian immigration into the American West across the Bering Strait from Mongolia. According to Arab traders in the Middle Ages, the Great Wall of China was named Al Magog (because it was built to keep out the ancient nation of Magog (the Mongols) from invading Sin (China). One of those waves was from Central Mongolia along the mid-Russian River called Yenisey which flows from the modern country called Mongolia. That wave included Mongols that spoke a common language whose words could be traced to the Western Russian people from the city of Ket along that Yenisey River. In America it was known as the Athabascan family of languages. Two SW American Indian nations emerged from that language family: the Navajo and the Apache. So when Prescott unearthed the skull of Geronimo to perform occult practices over the skull, he became spiritual ruler over the Magogite peoples in North America. No wonder that his son was given the name Magog. And the American SW. is really Eretz Magog after all.

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    1. Excellent information. I had seen that when I was preparing the blog and was considering it as part of my discussion. But, as you can see, I am a man of too many words as it is, so I left it out. I thank you for bringing it to the post -- the information is very interesting and pertinent. It is important to note that Magog was the son of Jepheth son of Noah. Magog had two brothers Meshech and Tuval. That is the origin of these names.

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  4. did you know that bible searchers.com is a christian website? they call yoshka: "a chassidic master"etc

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    1. Yes, but it was the information about the Bushes that was of interest. There are mistakes on the page considering that chassidus was founded in 18th century Eastern Europe by the Baal Shem Tov. The Talmud, however, does talk about yoshka studying Torah even though he was a rebellious student. His teacher was Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perahiah who lived long before the common era disproving the time of Yoshka's life. This could be another blog post that I probably won't do. Look at how much trouble I can get into talking about Gog Bush.

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  5. Here is an authoritative quote regarding what the Chofetz Chaim said about the wars of Gog and Magog:

    “While in London I heard from the holy Rabbi Elchanan Wasserman, quoting the Chofetz Chaim, that Chazal say the War of Gog and Magog will be threefold. After the First World War, the Chofetz Chaim said that it was the first battle of Gog and Magog, and that in about 25 years there would be a second world war, which would make the first one seem insignificant. Then there would be a third battle …” (Leiv Eliyahu, Shemos, p. 172)

    SOURCE:
    http://www.torah.org/learning/perceptions/5771/behar.html

    And it was Rabbi Nachman of Breslov who said:

    Mashiach will conquer the entire world without firing a single bullet. (Siach Sarfey Kodesh 1-67 )

    SOURCE:
    http://azamra.org/Essential/mashiach.htm

    All the best,
    Ben

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  6. Another interesting book that lays clearly out the betrayal of Israel by the governments of the world, including America is "The Secret War Against the Jews" by John Loftus and and Mark Aarons. If you ever had any misconceptions( I see you probably haven't ;-) regarding the US, Europe or Russia being a friend of Israel, this will completely shatter them.

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  7. REgarding your ststement: "Israel, know who your true enemies are and why your governments are so easily blackmailed into the assistance of the next Jewish Holocaust."

    Isn't our greatest enemy our spiritual mistakes and the yetzer hora? And Hashem is waiting and waiting and waiting for us to cry out to Him to save us? Instead of relying on haughty politicians, etc,?

    All the best,
    Ben

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    1. A man who fell overboard cried out to G-d to save him as the sea threatened his life. Just then a small boat appeared and the occupant offered his hand. The man said no I am waiting for G-d to save me.
      This world is not our home,believers should expect to be buffeted by evil. The Life boat has already been sent and refused, unless we repent, our future will be as the fate of the man adrift in the sea.

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  8. Many believe that it was Bush who orchestrated the hijackings and the attack on the WTC. Your piece on Bush further proves in my mind that Bush was responsible.

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    1. George W. Bush attacked Iraq in order to ensure the continued growth of Islamist terrorism in the Middle East.

      Here’s how I will go about it. I will argue that in order to understand Bush Jr.’s war on Iraq, one must first understand Bush Sr.’s 1991 Gulf War against the same country. And that war was not fought for oil; rather, it was launched to protect Islamist Iran.
      http://www.hirhome.com/iraniraq/iraq-general-intro.htm

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  9. I think one of our mistakes is expecting Gentile leaders to be bigger Zionists than our leaders.

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  10. Some Jewish bloggers are linking Moschiach with a possible Israeli attack on Iran and Iranians are linking that possible attack with their Messianic figure.

    Seems everyone is all tied in together, and we must pray for peace.

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  11. Is it possible that Gog is George Soros? He is a multi-billionaire and a very powerful force for evil in this world. He funds a myriad of anti-good, anti-G-d, anti-Israel Left-wing projects. He was instrumental in getting Obama elected.

    http://discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977.

    George Tsuris

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  12. http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/19467165117/photo-obama-with-george-soros-in-2007

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  13. The US and Iran Allies in Terror against Israel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsYt2rX_p34&feature=context&context=C4928643ADvjVQa1PpcFMCrZ8EL-XuQC_u3ir5_SvNp_zrayrCsvg=

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  14. Since...."the pronunciation of Gog. That in itself is very interesting since a Sephardic Jew would pronounce it more like Joj. There is no J sound in Hebrew and the pronunciation by a Sephardic Jew doesn’t have letters in English to do it justice; however, it sounds almost like someone is mispronouncing Jeoje. The Jews of Yemen would add an extra R sound making closer to Jeorje. " Would it be a possibility that Jorge MArio BerGOGlio be associated with it?

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    1. It is possible that he is part of the Gog Bush Sr. Cabal. Everything that is happening is being orchestrated by Gog Bush Sr. It is totally unknown that even Obama is part of the Cabal and has been working to destroy the US and much of the world in order to institute the evil New World Order. It would take much writing for me to detail all that is happening; just know that it is not obvious at all that Gog Bush is Gog. I am happy to say that he has been running into problems recently, making his horrible plans more difficult. He, of course, will fail -- Hashem will make sure of it.

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  15. Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that years ago, many Jewish publications quoted the Chofetz Chaim as having said:

    70 years after WWII there will be another war & then Moshiach will come

    I seriously think it's been conveniently forgotten that because 2015 is imminent.

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    1. I know of no such quote from the Chofetz Chaim; but, I am aware of Rav Elchonon Wasserman talking about Moshiach 70 years after the start of WW2. That would be 2009 -- 70 years after 1939. What specifically he was referring to I don't know. If you can give me a specific source from the Chofetz Chaim, I would gladly research it. I only know that he said that WW3 would be a spiritual war -- which it already is.

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  16. Just because it's not on the www doesn't mean it hasn't appeared in many publications decades ago. Alot of these predictions have just disappeared from the net, including one on the aish.com site which had made a big issue about the year 2012, including quoting sources from kabbalah. That, too, disappeared, conveniently for them.

    What did turn up on a web search was the below, but it's not what I meant:
    http://kabbalahsecrets.com/?p=1140

    If you have any journalist friends, you may want to conduct a search of the internal archives of the Jewish Press, or even Jerusalem Post. I strongly doubt you'd be allowed access by publications further to the right.

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    1. You have to be much more specific as to what you think has disappeared and didn't happen. Using the WWW as your reference or even worse the news media is reading someones, usually distorted, opinion. In other words, it has nothing to do with the truth, but because I saw something on the news, I believe it? That's dangerous.

      Best example I can give you is this blog post. The individual who is still running the evil show of the Cabal, trying to implement the evil New World Order, is none other than Gog Bush, Sr. Obama, the Clintons, Kerry, Romney, the Bilderberg group, Gog Bush, Jr, the Federal Reserve, Al Qaeda, the Pentagon, the US government and many other governments, FEMA, foreign leaders, etc, etc, etc are all puppet of the chief, Gog. You would never see the slightest hint of this in the news (I have inside sources that I cannot talk about besides seeing this in scriptures -- Hashem's messages), but I guarantee Gog is continuing the evil talked about in Tenach. I am happy to say that the Cabal is running into many problems which is a sign that Hashem is sending us a message that the end is near.

      Get back to me if you have any specific that you are not clear on, but do it through a personal Email -- absolutetruth613@gmail.com I have already said too much and we know what they do to whistleblowers.

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  17. incredible stuff

    I was on the ground at 9/11. shortly before the first building fell there was an enormous explosion, from 100 yards away it blasted on my face, thought a nuke went off, this was not fuel burning, it was a bomb

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    1. Thank you for sharing that with us. I have talked to several people who were there and experienced the same.

      Did you see my post of 11 Sep 2014, "The Absolute Truth that Nobody Believes (or even knows)?"
      http://absolutetruth613.blogspot.co.il/2014/09/the-absolute-truth-that-nobody-believes.html
      It was an eye opener for me researching the information, and a wake-up call for my readers.

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  18. Did you see the youtube video of the 15 year old Jewish kid who died and saw what's coming...he said that Obama is Go--seemed pretty convincing.

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    1. I am very familiar with the video and have already blogged my answer to some of the definite mistakes the boy made. Go to my post of THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2015, entitled "So, What Is Going On, and Why Are There Conflicts of Information?"
      http://absolutetruth613.blogspot.co.il/2015/10/so-what-is-going-on-and-why-are-there.html
      Obama works for Gog Bush, he is in Bush's very evil cabal. We don't give credit to an under-link when the boss is the true evil leader that is talked about in the Bible.

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  19. Jorge Bergoglio!!!!!!!
    Pope Francis.... a Jesuit

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    1. Thank you for that. It is fascinating that anyone who is famous and named George seems to be against Israel and part of the concept of Gog. I have said all along that Gog means George (Gog even appears in the name George, both in English and in Hebrew). To see that the present Pope, who has come across as an enemy of Israel, has Gog in his last name also is very telling. GOG is GEORGE.

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  20. George Washington may be the Father of the United States but perhaps even more compelling in Magog being "from GOG" is that the colonies declared their independence FROM KING GEORGE 3.

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  21. Fascinating blog. Gog/Magog war could be the Bush's starting a war between USA and the Middle East.
    One man with influence is currently rebelling against this.
    One man who was ridiculed by opponents, ridiculed and called "dangerous" by influential members of his own party who took part in the Gog/Magog war(Blair).
    One man ridiculed by the press.
    But this man swept to power despite the ridicule on the strength of the vote of the people. A record breaking landslide victory.
    One man, a lifelong committed pacifist.
    One man who refuses to recognise monarchs (false gods).
    One man rebelling against the money lenders(banks).
    Who is this modest man who asks the questions of the people in Parliament?
    He is JC.
    Jeremy Corbyn.

    Weird huh?

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    1. Very interesting. Americans and Israelis are not too familiar with him, but I can assure these days there are Jeremy Corbyns in every country in the world including Israel. However, they will be gone soon; it is Hashem's plan.

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  22. This Ma Gog interpretation as from Gog is interesting too. There is a prediction from the well known soothsayer "Nostradamus" that the person preceding the anti-Christ would be called "Mabus". He had similar claims regarding Hitler (Hister) and Napoleon.
    Ma bus - from bus(h)

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    1. Read the Jewish scriptures for accuracy, not Nostradamus. I have studied the very nebulous quatrains of Nostradamus and found him to be useless. The interpretations are so vague that you can put any spin on it that you want. As an example Hitler is spelled correctly in the codes of the Torah. Hister is the ancient name of the Danube River. Nostradamus was talking about a river, and modern charlatans interpreted it completely differently. I have heard Nostradamus experts state that some of his quatrains were written after the event happened -- no prophecy, just deception.

      Stay with the word of Hashem -- it is guaranteed accurate (Bush is also spelled accurately in scriptures).

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  23. So it has been a few years and neither Bush nor Obama are in office anymore.
    And while you probably love Trump - I find him frightening - like a child playing with a loaded gun.

    And Gog is pronounced Gog in Hebrew - no J sound so get over the George thing.
    BTW the Hebrew word Gog means 'roof'

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    1. There is nothing you are bringing up that my 25 years of research on the subject hasn't reviewed.

      For instance: where in scriptures does it say that Gog has to be in office? The first two battles of Gog and Magog were World War 1 and World War 2. Are King George 5th and King George 6th, the two Gog's of those battles still in office?

      I love Hashem. Trump means nothing to me, in fact I am in the process of denouncing my American citizenship; it is the most evil country in the history of the world (that is extremely easy to prove). More people have died because of the US of Magog than any other country. Before you come back with the question of Germany, you should be aware that both WW1 and WW2 came about by false flag operations from the US of Magog. Hitler, yemach shemo, didn't have the money for a war until Prescott Bush, Gog Bush's father, setup all the financing. There is tremendous amount of money to be made from war, and every war for the past 100 years came from the US of Magog for the purpose of making an enormous sum of money for the global elite.

      If you hear a Sephardi or even better a Yemenite Jew pronoun Gog it comes out closer to Joj and even Jorj. But it is Hashem that named these villains, not me.

      Go to the commentary of Succos and read why Gog and Magog is the topic of the haftarah readings for Succos and its connection to Gog as the roof of the Succah. Then you can ask Hashem that question also.

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  24. I don't deny Bush possibly being Gog, but how do you explain the Jewish boy (Nathan) that had a near death experience and said he knows positively that Obama is Gog?

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    1. He was totally incorrect. Obama works for Gog but is by no means Gog himself.

      Nathan also said the Gog and Magog began in September of 2015. Can you tell me what major event happened at that time that started Gog and Magog?

      As said above the three battles of Gog and Magog (Ezekiel 38 and 39, and Zechariah 12) were World Wars 1, 2 and 3, with WW3 being a spiritual war. Since Gog means George, we have WW1 with King George, 5th, WW2 with King George 6th and the spiritual WW3 with King George the Bush (the war started during his presidency with the Oslo accord). There was no Obama for WW1 and 2, and there was no start of Gog and Magog in September of 2015. So much for Nathan.

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    2. The 70th session of the UN opened on exactly 15 Sept 2015.

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    3. The 70th session of the United Nations opened on 15 Sept 2015, the exact date Nathan quotes in the video. This was also the date that Hungary sealed its border in the European refugee crisis - which I think is a key part of the global troubles up ahead.

      Since then we have seen the UN effectively mandate the Palestinian State, one of the last acts Obama did as US president on 15 January 2017. Nathan even suggest in the video that the war starts very slowly, in the background, then it suddenly escalates.

      What is also interesting is that if you watch the video, Nathan talks about 70 nations coming against Israel. There were exactly 70 nations at the meeting in Paris on 15 January 2017 that passed the motion for the Palestinian State.

      I was very sceptical about Nathan to begin with, but everything he said lines up with scripture - both Old and New Testament.

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    4. You are ignoring most of my post above with what you are saying. Where are the three battles brought down in Ezekiel 38, 39 and Zechariah 14? Above I stated the fully excepted miraculous prophetic answer of the Chofetz Chaim that it is WW1, 2 and 3, with WW3 being the spiritual war we are in right now.

      Nathan said that Obama is Gog. Not even close since he was born in 1961 and had nothing to do with WW1 and 2.

      There are many other points that also don't match, but I already wrote about it above; no need to repeat it here.

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    5. I guess with prophecy you can never know for sure, but personally I find it difficult to draw the link of Ezek 38, 39 and Zech 14 with WW1,2 and 3.

      For a start Ezek 38/39 specifically talks about Gog attacking the "land of Israel". This was surely not possible until after WW2 when Israel once again had their land back.

      Ezek 38 also talks about the fact when Gog attacks Israel, mountains will crumble and cliffs and walls will fall. And the Lord himself will defend Israel with torrential rain, stones, fire and sulphur.

      This seems to be very similar to what Nathan was saying, in that the IDF will be defeated and so only G-d can save Israel.

      Ezek 39 talks of Gog's destruction, and burial in the land of Israel "East of the Sea". So if Ez 39 is linked with WW2, then who was Gog and where is he buried?

      I cannot know for sure, but it sounds more like Ez 38/39 and Zech 14 must be talking about the same event - the same war. And that this war has not yet happened. Zechariah 14 mentions the splitting of the Mount of Olives right down the middle - this clearly didn't happen yet.

      I agree with you that Gog does not have to be in office when he attacks. I think they will have a role behind the scenes, causing other nations to attack to begin with - and only at the end do we see his true nature and he will join the attack on Israel.

      That is why I think it could be Obama. He deliberately didn't veto the vote in Paris on 15 January 2017, which effectively leaves Israel in a very vulnerable position. Also, many of his actions (most of which unreported) supported Palestine with money and weapons, and supplying Iran with Uranium!

      I don't say you are definitely wrong by the way. I just say that I don't see how the link fits the scripture, if you think that it is referring to previous wars that were separate. I think it must all be the same war, which didn't happen yet.

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    6. If we had a discussion about Quantum Physics or Business Law or brain surgery it would be a lot easier than trying to interpret scriptures, the most difficult text in the world. If you are reading it in English you are far from the truth.

      Attacking the land is meaningless; attacking the Jewish people is the much deeper meaning. WW1, 2 and 3 were all devastating for the Jews and that is the only conclusion one can make from scriptures and the events that actually happened.

      I have been studying scriptures for 70 year and I am just scratching the surface. Another 70 and I will be much closer. That is why most of my analysis came from very famous Rabbis who get their information from Hashem, the only Source of the truth.

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